see also: Buckner40Adni60Testing, BugsInProgress, and AdniReconNotes
Index
Buckner40 Notes
Subjid |
Versions & Notes |
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Stable 5.2* |
Stable 5.1* |
Stable 5.0* |
Stable 4.3** |
Older unknown version*** |
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run: 04/22/2013 |
run: May 3, 2011 |
run: October 18, 2010 |
run: 12/30/2008 |
run1: 9/19/2005 |
run2: 9/29/2005 |
run3: 10/26/2005 |
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004 |
-Ventricle needs to be filled in around coords 124 114 110 to correct the surfs in that area |
-tologolical defect 138 138 184, 127 142 161 |
-gm counted as wm at coords 113 140 147 |
-pial surface excluding some grey matter at coords 92 125 127 |
-LH temp lobe surfaces aren't good (coronal slice 116) |
-surfs - ok |
-surfs - temporal lobe wm not included in surface, but labeled in aseg - slice 128. |
008 |
-WM lesions at 112 74 127, 137 86 124, 161 115 58, 107 72 112, 132 71 112, 156 102 158 |
-ran skullstrip again to get rid of extra dura (ran w/ gcut) |
-skulstrip error - part of the cerebellum is missing |
-wm lesion at coords 109 98 162 |
-LH white surf in lateral vent not good (coronal slice 67) |
-surfs - missing some of temporal lobe (both pial and white surfaces) RH coronal slice 145. |
N/A |
017 |
-Needs some minor WM edits. Otherwise looks okay |
-topological defect 138 138 176, 134 140 160 |
-surfs cutting into lateral ventricles (~65) |
-WM and pial surfaces include dura starting from coronal slice 160 at coords 112 143 160 and upto slice 144 |
-LH surfs in lateral vent not good (coronal slice 49) |
-surfs - ventricles not filled all the way posteriorly, affecting surface (cor slice 49) |
-surfs - temporal lobe left out of wm coords 155 141 105 |
021 |
Looks okay overall |
-toptological defect 139 122 164 |
-surfs cutting into the lh lateral ventricle (slice ~66) -surfs not going all the way in on both sulci (slice ~98) |
-grey matter labelled as WM at 170 155 114. Aseg looks okay at these coords though |
-LH artery is little island of pial surface (coronal slice 139) |
-surfs - ok |
N/A |
032 |
-WM lesions at coords 137 67 149, 134 62 137, 88 75 124 |
-low intensity wm 139 124 145 |
-surfs on both sulci not going all the way in (fs confusing it with lat. ventr. - slice ~60) |
-Not sure if this area is calcarine or lateral ventricle at 155 131 70. Error occurs in both the hemispheres |
-not bad overall (pial in frontal lobes could extend a bit) |
-surfs - basal ganglian defect not filled completely (cor slice 129) creates a hole in the surfaces.(where the aseg labels Left-vessel and Right-vessel remains unfilled) |
N/A |
039 |
-WM lesions at coordinates 133 93 107, 113 95 105 |
-topological defect 132 153 146, 124 151 156, 132 161 56 |
-surfs are weird around the ventricles (slice ~78) |
-Topological defects at 131 161 57, 124 151 154 |
-bad talairach alignment |
-surfs - cutting planes are off. |
N/A |
040 |
-white surface cutting into lateral ventricle at 103 137 82 |
-topological defect 140 137 166, 127 133 156 |
-dura taken as wm (95 139 147) |
N/A |
-LH pial surf a bit tangled (slice 92 - vol index 145 142 92) |
-surfs - ok |
N/A |
045 |
-white surface excluding some WM in left temporal lobe |
-intensity problem on lh temp lobe ~151 |
-surfs are messed up around the ventricles (~60) |
-topological defect at 160 150 140 ? |
-superior CC cut plane too much in LH |
-surfs - cutting planes off |
-surfs - temporal lobes better, but still not great. 89 129 141 |
049 |
-pial surface crossing white surface around coordinates 158 119 75 |
-topological defect (low intensity) 14 128 168 |
-dura taken as wm (120 132 70 & 176 104 100) |
N/A |
-not bad overall |
-surfs - ok |
N/A |
067 |
-surfs look slightly off at posterior portion of left lateral ventricle |
-topological defect tip of temp lobes ~138, and 124 120 166 |
-lat. ventricles surfs are messed up (~44 & ~65) |
-white matter and pial surfaces cutting into ventricles at 148 159 42 ? |
-good overall |
-surfs - a bit of temp lobe excluded in COR slice 139 ish. |
-surfs - i think it's better, but there is still some temporal lobe left out in slice 139 ish. 86 136 139 |
073 |
-surfs look off at posterior portion of left and right lateral ventricles |
-calcarine labeled as ventricle 159 136 79 making surfs overlap |
-lat. ventricles area surfs are messed up (~76) |
-Not sure if this area is calcarine or lateral ventricle 102 141 61 |
-good overall |
-surfs - basal ganglian defect not filled completely coords 96 137 129 creates a hole in the surfaces.(where the aseg labels Left-vessel and Right-vessel remains unfilled) |
-surfs - problem with white surface here 153 156 128 and here 93 143 129, leaving holes in surface |
074 |
-WM lesions messing up surfaces around coordinates 139 57 108, 119 58 108 |
-topological defects 128 119 161 & on temporal lobes (low intensity) ~150 |
-calcarine mistaken as lat. ventricle |
-Not sure if this area is calcarine or lateral ventricle 155 132 74 |
-temp lobes - lose some pial and white surfs (slice 147) |
-surfs - basal ganglian defect not filled completely coords 99 118 128 creates a hole in the surfaces.(where the aseg labels Left-vessel and Right-vessel remains unfilled) |
N/A |
080 |
-Looks okay overall |
|
N/A |
N/A |
-very bad, most of inferior brain surfs are missing |
-surfs - temporal lobes horrible. excluded from surfaces AND asegs. Intensity is correct, 110. checked tal in tkregister2, looks ok. |
-surfs - same as before - talairach may be the culprit |
084 |
-bright spot around coordinates 140 155 51 is messing up the surfaces slightly around that area |
-topological defect (low intensity) 147 133 153,148 149 128 |
-wm not included in surfs (178 157 119) |
-pial surfaces crossing over WM surface at coords 94 81 149, 132 123 146 |
-good overall |
-surfs - portion of temporal lobe excluded coords 101 158 128. control points maybe |
-surfs - temporal lobe being excluded 102 158 128 |
091 |
-surfs slightly off at posterior portion of right lateral ventricle |
topological defect (intensity) 141 133 167 |
-pial surf cutting into wm surf (133 127 177) |
N/A |
-not bad overall |
-surfs - ok |
N/A |
092 |
-few WM lesions. Otherwise looks okay |
-topological defect 134 137 181 |
-skullstrip error - part of the cerebellum is missing |
N/A |
-good overall |
-surfs - ok |
N/A |
093 |
Ventricle needs to be filled in wm.mgz at 133 123 137 |
topological defect 125 133 177 |
-pial surf cutting into wm surf (167 142 149 & 81 132 138) |
-pial surface curves sharply inwards and also crosses WM surface at coords 133 123 135 |
-good overall |
-surfs - ok |
N/A |
095 |
-surfs off around coordinates 88 110 138, 171 107 138 |
-surfs going in through wm 161 111 128, 87 114 129 |
-**skullstrip failure** no cerebellum and part of the cortex is labeled as the cerebellum - really bad! - fixed with watershed method |
-tangled WM and pial surfaces. pial surface crosses over the WM surf. WM surf does not include some of the WM at coords 168 110 139 |
-very bad - CC plane in medial LH, pial surf in RH not good (slice 68) |
-surfs - large portions of RH temporal lobe excludes |
-surfs - problem here 154 110 125, mislabeled as cortex in aseg as well, talairach still bad. all other problems fixed!! |
097 |
-looks okay overall |
-topological defect (low intensity) 85 142 148 |
-dura taken as wm (117 147 153) |
-topological defect at coords 88 144 153. WM mislabelled as grey matter in aseg |
-RH temp lobe loses pial (slice 146), LH pial wonky laterally (166) |
-surfs - basal ganglian defect not filled completely coords 103 139 127 creates a hole in the surfaces.(where the aseg labels Left-vessel and Right-vessel remains unfilled) |
-surfs - pial still cuts off some temporal lobe, RH starting around COR slice 142 |
099 |
-surfs off around posterior portion of right lateral ventricle |
-calcarine labeled as ventricle 150 143 83 |
-lat. vent. area surfs |
-topological defect at coords 132 158 57 |
-RH frontal lobe surfs on slice 150? (132 165 150) otherwise good |
-surfs - ok |
N/A |
102 |
-surfs need to be corrected around coordinates 110 59 127 |
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-lat. vent. area |
N/A |
-good overall |
-surfs - LH frontal lobe pial gyri cut off (e.g. coronal slice 169, V.I.135 120 169) also pial surfs are fragmented in coronal slice 189 white surfs loook bad in coronal slice 90 -- LH lat vent and RH gyrus |
N/A |
103 |
-few WM lesions. Otherwise looks okay |
|
-dura taken as wm (175 120 133) |
N/A |
-a chunk of RH artery in pial surface (slice 145) otherwise good |
-surfs - cor slice 146 - RH crud included in pial surf 111 132 146 |
-surfs - RH artery still included 111 133 146 |
106 |
-surfs off around posterior portion of right lateral ventricle |
-ventricle labeled as cortex messing up surfs 103 121 78 |
-ventricle mistaken as calcarine (102 118 76) |
-pial surface crosses over WM surface at coords 113 121 97 |
-good overall |
-surfs - RH temp lobe not good - coronal slice 138 -79 128 138 /medial LH not good 128 122 157, LH frontal lobe gyrus misses a lot - 137 137 181 |
N/A |
108 |
-ventricle probably needs to be filled in to correct the surfs around coords 132 126 142 |
-low intensity problem 138 144 178, 133 143 156 |
-dura taken as wm (84 121 139, 185 119 133, 170 150 109, 82 156 120 & 143 137 108) |
-pial surface tangled at coords 83 136 149, 160 154 160 in all the views |
-very bad -- RH cereb missing, RH temp lobes losing surfs (145) |
-surfs - RH lateral temp lobe misses out as usual 81 129 151, and pial is tangled here --> 72 134 129 |
-surfs - RH cerebellum is missing still |
111 |
-looks okay overall |
-cortex overlabeled to eyeba-very bright - poor contrast b/t gm and wm |
-skullstrip errror - more of lh cerebellum is stripped off |
-pial surface crossing over WM surface at coords 80 86 128 |
-temporal lobe: disconnection of thin gyri, slices 133-135 |
-surfs - some skull picked up as pial coronal slice 50, LH temp lobe sucks 166 142 160 |
-surfs - better than before. cerebellum still stripped at bottom |
114 |
-brainmask.mgz looks pixellated causing low WM intensity in many areas (mainly posterior). This is messing up the surfaces |
-surfs going into ventricles ~72 |
-skullstrip error - a little bit of cerebellum is stripped off toward posterior |
-topological defect at 101 74 136 |
-not very good - overall loss of outer pial surface |
-surfs - lots of stuff excluded -- look at coronal slice 155 -- LH frontal occipital gyri, weirdness in RH temp lobe, 99 71 135 <--this entire area (superior lateral frontal RH is excluded from pial surfs) |
-surfs - pial surf misses a lot of cortex here 99 74 128 - lots of problems like this throughout |
123 |
looks okay overall |
|
-pial surf messed up (143 144 106) |
N/A |
-not bad overall |
-surfs - not bad, RH temp lobe surfs fragemented again (cor slice 144) also weirdness labelled as pial 132 148 136 |
N/A |
124 |
-WM lesions in few areas |
-topological defect 139 127 170 |
N/A |
-erratic pial surface at coords 139 69 178, 138 59 161 |
-good overall |
-surfs - okay, a bit of pial tangling at 111 114 137, lateral RH temp lobe cuts out e.g. coronal slice 140 |
N/A |
128 |
-Pial surface cutting in sharply at coords 100 143 79, 157 147 73 |
-topological defect 125 128 148 |
-pial surf cutting into white surf (96 86 148 & 95 141 146) |
N/A |
-not bad overall |
-surfs - ok |
N/A |
129 |
-pial surface cutting in sharply at coords 111 112 73 |
-topological defect 142 109 175 |
-dura taken as wm (114 117 158) |
N/A |
-not bad overall |
-surfs - 114 117 157 RH blob, 128 111 171 RH gyrus intersect/fragment |
N/A |
130 |
-surfs off at posterior portion on both right and left lateral ventricle |
-surfs going in ventricle 99 118 80 |
-dura taken as wm (92 120 135, 143 146 186 & 102 134 142) |
N/A |
-good overall |
-surfs - pretty good, but some pial tangling in LH 183 133 78 |
N/A |
131 |
-looks okay overall |
-topological defect 135 104 147, 82 105 147 |
-skullstrip error - tiny bit of lh cerebellum is missing |
N/A |
-good overall |
-surfs - ok - some vessels in pial surface. |
N/A |
133 |
-looks okay overall |
|
-dura taken as wm (109 123 164) |
N/A |
-not bad overall |
-surfs - ok |
N/A |
136 |
-surfs off around posterior portion of right and left lateral ventricles |
-surfs weird at ventricles ~75 |
-skullstrip error - part of lh temporal lobe is stripped off - fixed by adjusting watershed threshold |
N/A |
-good overall |
-surfs - ok |
N/A |
138 |
-pial and white surface curving in sharply around coords 133 105 128 |
-topological defect 124 124 146 |
N/A |
N/A |
-not bad overall |
-surfs - some pial tangling and wm of temp. lobe goes and comes back 102 142 126 |
N/A |
140 |
-looks okay overall |
-topological defect 14 122 157 |
-dura taken as wm (86 98 117 & 119 126 178) |
N/A |
-good overall |
-surfs - ok |
N/A |
141 |
-WM lesions in few areas |
-topological defect 135 112 149 |
-lateral ventricles area (~76) |
N/A |
-good overall |
-surfs - ok |
N/A |
144 |
-brainmask.mgz looks pixellated causing WM intensity to drop in some areas which in turn is causing some WM lesions |
-low intensity area 140 109 185 |
-skullstrip error - a bit of lh cerebellum missing |
N/A |
-very bad - CC cutting plane in medial RH, LH lat ventr surfs not good, |
-surfs -cutting planes are awful - talairach bad |
N/A |
145 |
-brainmask.mgz looks pixellated causing WM intensity to drop in some areas which in turn is causing some WM lesions |
-topological defect tip of both temp lobes ~150 |
-skullstrip error - part of the lh temporal lobe is stripped off - fixed by adjusting watershed threshold |
N/A |
-bad seg - orbital fat labeled as RH wm (slice 173), L/RH temp lobe, surfs 143 |
-surfs - ok |
N/A |
149 |
-looks okay overall |
-topological defect 122 133 172, 82 147 153, 169 178 97 |
-lh lateral ventricle area (~81) |
N/A |
-not bad overall |
-surfs - ok |
N/A |
*Path of data is:
v5.0: /autofs/cluster/freesurfer/test/subjects/x86_64/buckner_data/group_study_fs5.0.0_from_scratch
v5.1: /autofs/cluster/freesurfer/test/subjects/x86_64/buckner_data/group_study_fs5.1.0
For more detailed notes of which errors could be fixed and which couldn't, refer to
/autofs/cluster/freesurfer/test/subjects/x86_64/buckner_data/group_study_fs5.0.0_from_scratch/notes.ods
**40 subjects in the Buckner data set have each been inspected for defects and following is a brief description of them. recons were launched with the stable v4.3.0 of Freesurfer. The data is in the path /autofs/space/birn_045/users/BWH/buckner_data/group_study Couple of scans from this data set are used as examples to update the tutorials. Subject 004 is used for Pial edits. Subject 008 is used for WM lesions and WM and dura labeled as WM. Subject 099 is used as an example for topological defects.
***The 40 subjects in the buckner_data/group_study tutorial distribution have each been inspected for defects (by Jenni Pacheco, Evelina Busa, and Brian Quinn). These notes, combined with using tkmedit and tksurfer to observe the defects, serve as a good tutorial on what is considered 'good' and 'bad' output.
Note: Some of these subjects are used as the example cases in the Morphometry and Reconstruction tutorial (specifically, subjects 008, 039, 095, 108, and 111).
Stable 5.0.0 Errors Categorization
Subjid |
Failure Modes |
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Segmentation Errors |
Intensity Normalization |
Pial Surface Misplacement |
Skullstrip Errors |
Topological Errors |
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004 |
x |
x |
x |
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x |
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008 |
x |
x |
x |
x |
x |
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017 |
x |
|
x |
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021 |
x |
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x |
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032 |
x |
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039 |
x |
x |
x |
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x |
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040 |
|
x |
x |
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045 |
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x |
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049 |
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x |
x |
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x |
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067 |
x |
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x |
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073 |
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x |
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074 |
x |
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080 |
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x |
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084 |
|
x |
x |
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x |
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091 |
|
x |
x |
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x |
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092 |
|
x |
x |
x |
x |
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093 |
|
x |
x |
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x |
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095 |
x |
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x |
x |
x |
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097 |
|
x |
x |
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x |
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099 |
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x |
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x |
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102 |
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x |
x |
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103 |
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x |
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x |
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106 |
x |
x |
x |
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x |
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108 |
|
x |
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111 |
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x |
x |
x |
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114 |
x |
x |
x |
x |
x |
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123 |
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x |
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x |
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124 |
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x |
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128 |
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x |
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x |
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129 |
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x |
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130 |
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x |
x |
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131 |
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x |
x |
x |
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133 |
x |
x |
x |
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136 |
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x |
x |
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138 |
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140 |
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x |
x |
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x |
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141 |
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x |
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144 |
x |
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x |
x |
x |
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145 |
|
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x |
x |
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149 |
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x |
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x |
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Total |
13 |
19 |
34 |
9 |
21 |